Comments on: The Rise of the Venetian Empire I: Counterfactual Advances http://cyan-light.co.uk/2009/04/the-rise-of-the-venetian-empire-1-counterfactual-advances/ Clear-cut with a dash of orange. Serve with ice. Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:35:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Angus http://cyan-light.co.uk/2009/04/the-rise-of-the-venetian-empire-1-counterfactual-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-3468 Angus Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:35:34 +0000 http://cyan-light.co.uk/?p=62#comment-3468 Cool! Right now I'm playing etw again, doing my first Spanish campaign. I may invest in Napoleon at some point, depends on what specification it requires... Cool! Right now I’m playing etw again, doing my first Spanish campaign.
I may invest in Napoleon at some point, depends on what specification it requires…

]]> By: Cyan-Light http://cyan-light.co.uk/2009/04/the-rise-of-the-venetian-empire-1-counterfactual-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-2648 Cyan-Light Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:05:35 +0000 http://cyan-light.co.uk/?p=62#comment-2648 God, I don't even remember the last time I wrote here... Venice is one of the most interesting factions to play. I have noticed that the Italian States are ironically the most plucky of the minors, given that the Pope is the autocratic leader. I recently started another campaign with them in 1.5 (it's now nearly 1800 and I have total rule over America and India, have fully united modern-day Italy under the benevolent rule of Venice, France and Iberia.) I always stay away from North Africa because it's simply not much of a cash generator. Minor nations are the most interesting factions to play, I think (though I do have an undiluted love for Austria.) Should be cool to see what Napoleon brings to the table. It's cheap on Amazon so I bought it for my birthday (: God, I don’t even remember the last time I wrote here…

Venice is one of the most interesting factions to play. I have noticed that the Italian States are ironically the most plucky of the minors, given that the Pope is the autocratic leader. I recently started another campaign with them in 1.5 (it’s now nearly 1800 and I have total rule over America and India, have fully united modern-day Italy under the benevolent rule of Venice, France and Iberia.) I always stay away from North Africa because it’s simply not much of a cash generator. Minor nations are the most interesting factions to play, I think (though I do have an undiluted love for Austria.) Should be cool to see what Napoleon brings to the table. It’s cheap on Amazon so I bought it for my birthday (:

]]> By: Angus http://cyan-light.co.uk/2009/04/the-rise-of-the-venetian-empire-1-counterfactual-advances/comment-page-1/#comment-2644 Angus Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:19:59 +0000 http://cyan-light.co.uk/?p=62#comment-2644 I've done a Ventian campaign too, and yep it was definitely good. Italy is like Germany in ETW in the sense that's divided up by lots of little guys. Germany usually gets 'created' by Prussia, but Italy remains stable and insignificant in every game I've played except the Venice campaign. Venice are much better off than the other minor factions in many ways and it doesn't take a lot to put them on a par with the major factions, as your campaign shows. They have a great navy prebuilt for them, a large capital city, and a 'colony' in Greece. They're protected nicely by Austria and none of the major factions can threaten them. Your campaign interested my since it played out fairly similarly to mine, but with some very clear differences. As for my campaign On the second turn The Italian States betrayed me and took Venice! Their army hopped out a fleet and attacked my tiny garrison! :( I remedied this by loading the last turn and snatching Rome from them. This was very easy since their army was on that fleet I mentioned. The system of alliances in Italy created big problems for me after that. The Italian States allies joined in against me, so do their allies, and so on. I ended up in conflict with France, Spain, Savoy, and Genoa. At the end of the first phase of this war I controlled all of the Italian mainland and had sunk the main Genoan and French fleets with the prebuilt Venetian one. In addition I'd snatched some of the barbary states' provinces. Things progressed and by the end of the campaign Venice was the unstoppable number 1 faction. Spain and France were gone, and their colonies surrounded by and allied to me. Half of Europe was mine and another quarter of it under the control of my allies, the Marathas and the Austrians. The only other Itialian factions controlled one island province each and were both my protectorates. I'd bought a lot of India off the Marathas, who were world power number 2. And weirdest of all, I only ever started two wars myself, the first being the pre-emptive self defence I mentioned, and the other protecting my Austrian allies from the Prussians, although they didn't ask for help. :) I’ve done a Ventian campaign too, and yep it was definitely good. Italy is like Germany in ETW in the sense that’s divided up by lots of little guys. Germany usually gets ‘created’ by Prussia, but Italy remains stable and insignificant in every game I’ve played except the Venice campaign. Venice are much better off than the other minor factions in many ways and it doesn’t take a lot to put them on a par with the major factions, as your campaign shows.
They have a great navy prebuilt for them, a large capital city, and a ‘colony’ in Greece. They’re protected nicely by Austria and none of the major factions can threaten them.

Your campaign interested my since it played out fairly similarly to mine, but with some very clear differences.

As for my campaign
On the second turn The Italian States betrayed me and took Venice! Their army hopped out a fleet and attacked my tiny garrison! :( I remedied this by loading the last turn and snatching Rome from them. This was very easy since their army was on that fleet I mentioned.

The system of alliances in Italy created big problems for me after that.
The Italian States allies joined in against me, so do their allies, and so on. I ended up in conflict with France, Spain, Savoy, and Genoa.
At the end of the first phase of this war I controlled all of the Italian mainland and had sunk the main Genoan and French fleets with the prebuilt Venetian one. In addition I’d snatched some of the barbary states’ provinces.
Things progressed and by the end of the campaign Venice was the unstoppable number 1 faction. Spain and France were gone, and their colonies surrounded by and allied to me. Half of Europe was mine and another quarter of it under the control of my allies, the Marathas and the Austrians. The only other Itialian factions controlled one island province each and were both my protectorates.
I’d bought a lot of India off the Marathas, who were world power number 2. And weirdest of all, I only ever started two wars myself, the first being the pre-emptive self defence I mentioned, and the other protecting my Austrian allies from the Prussians, although they didn’t ask for help. :)

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